Posts by defender of truth

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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

by defender of truth in

with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

defender of truth

Don't give up hope yet...

Page 3 of the Independent Inquiry November statement reads as follows:

"10. Our fourth and fifth investigations will deal with failings by two major religious institutions in England and Wales, namely the Roman Catholic church and the Anglican church.

We will also be conducting research into child sexual abuse in other faith communities, which will lead to other investigations in time. "

And from page 1:

"Twelve investigations are proposed for this first phase.. They represent only the start of the Inquiry's investigations and are by no means the total of the work we intend to conduct; further investigations will be announced as the Inquiry progresses. "

Also, this is an important point from page 2:

"..We will not be limited to considering the particular institution that is the focus of the investigation, but will address the range of institutions responsible for child protection. And our recommendations will generally be made with the whole sector, rather than any specific institution, in mind."

This inquiry is ultimately all about highlighting institutional failures when it comes to protecting children from sexual abuse, then recommending ways that ALL religions (and all other sectors) can handle child sexual abuse differently.. Each of us wants the world to be a safer place for future generations to grow up in.

A potential exposure of harmful Watchtower policies would be great obviously...

But either way, whether Jw's are specifically investigated or not, the findings of this Inquiry are hopefully going to change the future with regards to institutional standards of dealing with abuse cases, and even getting proper support and compensation to victims (see page 7). I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

Please feel free to share any thoughts you have on the statement, it is well worth reading:

www.iicsa.org.uk/sites/default/files/update-statement-november-2015.pdf

Introductory video and updates are all here:

www.iicsa.org.uk/

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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it

by LevelThePlayingField in

just had the co visit tonight.

i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.

then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.

defender of truth

A quick google news search reveals..

Plans for huge Jehovahs Witnesses HQ continue

Jehovahs Witnesses deny rumours UK headquarters

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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

by defender of truth in

with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

defender of truth

Many religious organisations will find themselves being closely scrutinised in the national independent inquiry into child sexual abuse, chaired by New Zealand judge Lowell Goddard.
The survivors of such abuse hope that the inquiry will prove itself truly independent, and help ensure that abusers will not be able to rely on their own congregations or religious leaders to protect them - whatever their faith.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33609927

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Jamaican news - ‘SHUNNING’: A Cult-Like Practice Of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by defender of truth in

www.jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20150913/shunning-cult-practice-jehovahs-witnesses

defender of truth

Not yet, that I have seen. They are rarely mentioned, from what I can make out.

Here is another article from Jamaica:

www.lifeofajamaican.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/close-your-doors-the-jehovahs-witnesses-are-coming/

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Lurker trying to gain clarity

by questioningmyfaith in

jw
friends

hello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.

i am not negative towards the wt at all.

so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.

defender of truth

questioningmyfaith said:
But, if you have any answers to my questions about the world getting worse and mankind destroying it I would be happy to hear.

Really? Then why have you not responded to any of the replies you have already had to your questions?

Even a simple thanks to those who took the time to reply to you, would be polite.

Saintbertholdt 4 days ago
"If there is no god, is there hope for mankind"
Definitely. If you look at the statistics, for example: Average human life expectancy, average available calories per day per human, infectious disease statistics and even population growth you'll notice that things overall are getting better over time for the entire planet.
Regarding climate change: The fact that it has been detected and debated is a very good thing. You can't fix something if you don't know its broken.
"Why do humans seem to be so unable to rule themselves."
Slowly but surely the world is democratizing. This is a good thing as it also goes hand in hand with free markets which is also a good thing.
Human kind can still drop the ball in a big way, but I think that we're on the right track.
Believing in God and the Watchtower does seem to give one comfort in that one supposedly knows the future, but this is an illusion. The future is an unknown country which makes it scary but also exhilarating at the same time.

OneEyedJoe 4 days ago
This reminds me of the Socrates quote from over 1600 years ago:
The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.
The fact is that every generation thinks the outgoing generation is old fashioned and that the next generation is doomed. You're focusing on the bad news which is often sensationalized and put forth more because it sells.
There's lots of good news out there too, though. There have been people in every generation for the last 2000 years that thought that "critical times hard to deal with will be here" was being fulfilled. Meanwhile the world has improved by just about every metric there is.

Billyblobber 4 days ago
Climate change isn't "hopeless." You're looking at this from a strictly human-centric perspective, first of all, which makes sense when you've been around a religion that makes humanity the center of the universe.
If humans are just another animal, then they don't matter to this planet any more than the dinosaurs, which were on the planet longer.
Even if they have an effect on the climate or blow themselves up in nuclear war, the earth will change as it has always been changing, and new life will appear or other life that survives will evolve and become the dominant species. So what humans do, only matters to humans themselves. And as such, we have the best chance of any species that ever existed on this planet to possibly outlive the planet itself (the planet will eventually die unless we can reignite the sun waaayyyy in the future - something that JWs assume God will do or something).

We are living in the best time in history. Life is safer, per capita, for people more than any time on this planet. Diseases are contained far better than they ever war. Wars are actually slowing down and have less of an impact on the average individual. People are living longer. People are getting closer towards cracking aging and other things.
The news, etc. is purposely centered around constantly scaring people so that they tune back in, but stats don't match that. Similarly, religions have to tell people everything is going badly to give their followers a reason to pour themselves into them. But, again, facts don't match this. Look these things up for yourself.

^^ Those were responses you received on this very thread.

Why do humans seem to be so unable to rule themselves.

My response to that specific question would be:

Why should mankind be expected to govern ourselves without 'getting it wrong', or taking actions that may later turn out to have negative consequences? (your question seems to imply that you may actually mean 'why does human government always have flaws and make mistakes?', otherwise it doesn't make much sense because humans clearly are able to govern themselves.. We have governments. )

In the absence of an Omniscient God who wants to sort all our problems out for us, which is like wishing Superman existed, human governments are the best we can do.. Unless you support total anarchy?

www.civilliberty.about.com/od/historyprofiles/f/why_government.htm

In future, when you start a topic, maybe just confine your remarks to the subject you wish to discuss? It was your OP and subsequent posts that brought up the very things you claim that you did not want to discuss..

To then just dismiss everything said in reply to YOUR comments without addressing what was said, really comes across as arrogant and rude.

I'll leave it there. I hope you find peace in your new belief system.

Once I embraced my atheism, rather than running from it.. everything became clearer. Perhaps because it was MY belief, not a set of beliefs imposed by a third party.

Good luck to you. ;)

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For me the worst thing is not having a helper anymore

by John Aquila in

one of the things that gave me confidence in life was that i believed i had the almighty creator/god watching over me, directing me, guiding my every step, protecting me from harm, and answering my prayers.

i now know that is not the case anymore.

i finally stopped praying.

defender of truth

For me, the best thing about becoming an atheist was realising I don't have a helper.. and that I never actually had one.

This means that everything I have ever achieved, every good deed I have done, every person I have helped along the way..

I did it myself.

;)

How's that for a different way of looking at things?

You clearly don't need an invisible helper...

You never had one in the first place.

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Jamaican news - ‘SHUNNING’: A Cult-Like Practice Of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by defender of truth in

www.jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20150913/shunning-cult-practice-jehovahs-witnesses

defender of truth

What Are Some Of The Psychological Damage That Shunning Inflicts On A Person?
JD: As a controlling group, they instill "the us versus them" mentality.
All non-Jehovah's Witnesses are worldly people under Satan's rule. Therefore, association with worldly people should be limited to only necessary dealings, and for preaching.
This means that if a Jehovah's Witness leaves the organisation they have no outside support system. Their whole support structure doesn't exist.
They have no one and they have lost their entire family and friends. This is devastating.

www.jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20150913/shunning-cult-practice-jehovahs-witnesses

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Need Help with Blood Transfusion Illustration

by Dissonant15 in

please, who can provide an intelligent rebuttal to the following illustration?

i always thought it was bullet-proof:.

"if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

defender of truth

@Dissonant15, this page has plenty of well written articles on the blood issue:

www.ajwrb.org/

"if your doctor directs you to 'abstain from alcohol' would you be ok to have it injected into your veins rather than drink it?

www.ajwrb.org/is-a-blood-transfusion-a-meal

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Watchtower tax-exemption pressures mid-Hudson town

by defender of truth in

a detailed report in the times herald-record by hema easley and james walsh, indicates a high level of frustration with the watchtowers expansion in the town of warwick and surrounding area.

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buying up property and paying very little in local taxes is making the town officials of warwick, ny, begin to look closer at watchtower operations.. .

defender of truth

A detailed report in the Times Herald-Record by Hema Easley and James Walsh, indicates a high level of frustration with the Watchtower’s expansion in the town of Warwick and surrounding area.
Buying up property and paying very little in local taxes is making the town officials of Warwick, NY, begin to look closer at Watchtower operations.

www.jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/watchtower-tax-exemption-pressures-mid-hudson-town

Also, you may want to take a look at:

www.canada.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=fb2642fd-7afb-4a99-8bac-f6e035967671

www.jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/town-wants-taxes-from-watchtower-real-estate

www.churchandstate.org.uk/2015/09/americans-are-leaving-religion-why-are-we-still-subsidizing-it/

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How wonderful is JW.ORG

by Sabin in

there are some who still love the organization & the people in it.. who understand that every large organization has their own issues.. they believe the advice on what type of person you are supposed to be & how to treat others has made them a better person.

and they believe, quite frankly, even if the g.b are a bunch of narcissistic wannabe powerful guys, the worest thing they have done is to wake up people on saturday mornings.. i`ve been awake most of the night thinking about this, wondering if this person had a point.

then something came to my mind.

defender of truth

(To summarise my post on page 1, as it's quite long)

The GB are responsible for countless children being cut off from their parents..

They use the JW's feelings;

their fear of God, and loyalty to their God, to indoctrinate millions of people into thinking that Disfellowshipping is a loving action.

Countless parents would otherwise have naturally found a way to ignore it, or get around it.

That first quote of my post clearly shows that even 'checking up on someone', your own family member, is a violation of the DF'ing arrangement.

When asked what moved him to return to Jehovah and His people after such a long time, he replied that the stand that his family took affected him.

“Had my family associated with me even a little, say to check up on me, that small dose of association would have satisfied me and likely not allowed my desire for association to be a motivating factor to return to God.”

The GB also teach that those who do not return to Jehovah before Armageddon are going to be..

The feasting by birds on the corpses of such enemies of Christ’s Kingdom rule likewise finds a correspondency here.

http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001734?q=birds+revelation&p=par

For further reading:

www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/salvation-only-for-jehovahs-witnesses.php#L1